Comments on: 2014-2015 Player Profile: Troy Williams https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/ Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball news, recruiting and analysis. Wed, 15 Oct 2014 20:42:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: HoosierGrampy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230462 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 20:42:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230462 In reply to hoosierfan2336.

Duke, Kansas, Arizona, Kentucky, Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan State, Syracuse & Ohio State among others, bear little similarity to the teams they put on the court in the 70s or 80s either. Arguably every one of them is better today than they’ve ever been. Just because IU is not among the elite today is not to say that they cannot be. The reality some seem unwilling to accept is that TC may not be the one to lead us back to relevancy…and he just might be the right guy in the right place. Time will be the ultimate judge.

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By: hoosierfan2336 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230345 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:55:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230345 In reply to HoosierGrampy.

Okay? IU isn’t what they were in the 70s and 80s and likely never will be. Nearly everyone has moved on. It’s time to be realistic.

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By: HoosierGrampy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230305 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 04:36:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230305 In reply to REV D.

1. My first name is Bill, not Dude.
2. Considered to be a very good talent evaluator; good recruiter; decent motivator; good at developing players who are willing to put in the work; family-oriented–likes to include potential recruits in the IU “family”; honest and candid with reporters; enthusiastic & focused in games.
3. Whether I like or dislike TC Is none of your business. You are entitled to your voice opinions here, and so am I. I really don’t care what sickens you or what makes you feel good. I happen to respect what he did to resurrect Sampson’s debacle and the way he went about it. I’m not stupid enough to say that no one else could have done the same, but the line for volunteers/candidates was not full of very many notable coaches in 2008.
4. I lived in Lexington, KY for 25 years and want absolutely nothing to do with that city or school. I was transferred there for business. Moving there was one of the worst decisions I ever made. Staying for so long was another bad call on my part.
5. I have no control over who reads these posts. as with any social media, there will be supporters/cheer leaders and dissenters/protagonists. Where I choose to express myself is my business. I don’t drink so the bar is not a viable option. If you care to pay for the premium forum, I’d be happy to put a comment there.
6. If you consider every comment which suggests or implies that TC might just have a few things to improve upon to become an elite coach, then you’ll find a lot of laundry around here. BTW, the phrase “dirty laundry” is redundant. If clothes are clean, they aren’t laundry.

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By: HoosierGrampy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230300 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 04:00:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230300 In reply to HoosierMitch.

I believe that any coach who comes into a new situation should have at least as long as it takes (4 yrs normally) to get “his” players on the floor before any real evaluation occurs. If progress occurs sooner it’s a bonus, but early success does not necessarily or automatically validate the coach as an excellent hire. Said it before that I believe that TC is a good recruiter, decent motivator and an all-around nice guy. I do not think he has the charisma or coaching strengths necessary to take IU back to elite status. I’ve been wrong before, though. Might be this time, as well.

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By: REV D https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230265 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:56:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230265 In reply to HoosierGrampy.

Dude, I bet you couldn’t name 7 positive things about Crean. If you are that displeased with OUR coach go be a pUKe fan. Sickens me that we have fans that post this stuff when we have high school kids (and their parents) reading our public forums. If you can’t express yourself at the bar at least have the decency to pay for the premium forum to air your dirty laundry.

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By: HoosierMitch https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230261 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:25:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230261 In reply to HoosierGrampy.

You can knock out the first two years @ IU. He came into nothing with little to no chance to recruit. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, but I as a lifetime Hoosier fan expect us to make the dance every year

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By: HoosierGrampy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230221 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:47:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230221 In reply to Hoosier Hall.

I look forward to seeing our version of the Human Highlight Film…

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By: inLinE6 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230218 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:16:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230218 In reply to N71.

I watched him switching hands in Canada. He made some shots on both hands. But once he missed, he switched to the other hand… That made it hard to defend him, but confused himself as well… I hope he can figure it out soon….

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By: HoosierGrampy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230215 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:04:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230215 In reply to Ben_M.

Chemistry = check. Work ethic = check. Coaching = ???

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By: HoosierGrampy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230214 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:01:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230214 In reply to hoosierfan2336.

9 years @ Marquette = 5 invites to the Dance. 6 years @ IU = 2 invites to the Dance…TC remains a work in progress.

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By: ForeverIU https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230166 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:23:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230166 In reply to Ole Man.

www . nbadraft . net/top-ncaa-15-sophomores

Remove the spaces, lol.

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By: Ole Man https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230164 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:19:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230164 In reply to ForeverIU.

Don’t know where that info came from but NBA draft express says he is not in the picture and needs improvement in every area. So, I think he’s here at least through his Jr. season.

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By: ForeverIU https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230162 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:14:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230162 In reply to N71.

Absolutely! 100%. Priority should be given to Stan and all of our veterans, I mean in terms of game presence and contribution.

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By: ForeverIU https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230161 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:11:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230161 In reply to CreamandCrimson.

Thanks! I wonder what his 3-pt % was, especially towards the end.

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By: CreamandCrimson https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230159 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:09:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230159 In reply to ForeverIU.

An article from Rick Bozich mentioned that Troy had worked with IU assistant coaches and developed a plan to improve his shot. The article said that the plan was to make 10,000 3-pointers in the offseason and that he recently reached his goal.

An effective 3-point shot (I still want him to mainly rely on his quickness, length and athleticism to get to the rim) will make the rest of his game much more effective and dangerous than it was last season.

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By: N71 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230158 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:07:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230158 In reply to Ben_M.

If we look at our development system guys emerge their sophomore seasons. James, even as an All American, is still going to struggle with freshman issues, turnovers in particular. Troy though sure seems positioned for a big year. I’m curious if more attention shouldn’t be given to Stan versus Rob and James. Stan is positioned now for a sophomore breakout but I’ve not heard much about his development other than he’s switched shooting hands.

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By: ForeverIU https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230157 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:57:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230157 In reply to gohoosiers09.

He’s been working on strength (needless to say) and his 3-pt shot. He recently tweeted that he had recorded 3-pt shot #10,000 (presumably since the end of last season?).

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By: gohoosiers09 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230153 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:43:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230153 In reply to ForeverIU.

I want to agree with you but i feel he has so many aspects of his game to improve on. I know the NBA is a lot about athleticism, but i dont see him leaving after this year….but who knows!

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By: ForeverIU https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230152 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:42:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230152 Troy is going to be a top 15 sophomore draft pick (ask nbadraft dot net), ranked #10 in the nation among sophomores. I think soon our worries will change from “Will he deliver?” to “Will he stay?”. Enjoy every minute of his hopefully not-so-brief sojourn with us folks.

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By: SCHoosier https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/10/14/2014-2015-player-profile-troy-williams/comment-page-1/#comment-230151 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:12:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=41364#comment-230151 Troy has a huge upside on offense. My concern is the quote from TC over the summer about his defense . Something like “Ask Bo Ryan who WIS wanted to go at every time they had the ball” (something like that) In other words..WIS was convinced Troy couldn’t defend anyone. To me that;’s the key to his court time..D and rebounding. Think of some of the great 3 and 4 position players Troy may have to defend this year. If TW’s total game is improved he could be second to Yogi in minutes played .

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