Comments on: Notebook: Crean, on radio show, says Penn State loss ‘really devastated us’ https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/ Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball news, recruiting and analysis. Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:01:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Laffy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204769 Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:01:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204769 In reply to calbert40.

You keep going by stats and I’ll keep going by scoreboard.

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By: calbert40 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204682 Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:39:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204682 In reply to Laffy.

It isn’t just the my opinion or the media’s, it is the impartial statistical metrics that suggest the B1G is better than the ACC, and that it really isn’t close. Now, the ACC may have one or two teams that are better than any team in the B1G, and an ACC team may win the tourney, but that doesn’t mean the ACC is better than the B1G on the whole.

On a related note, I have always thought that we should call one another pet names on here. You seem like a “Sugar Buns” to me. Are you agreeable to that?

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By: Laffy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204651 Thu, 20 Feb 2014 05:23:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204651 In reply to calbert40.

Assume whatever you want, pumpkin…..doesn’t make it true.

Just because you and the media say the Big Ten is “far better” doesn’t make it true.

Like I said….if the Big Ten does great in The Dance, you’ll brag it “proved you right.”

And if the Big Ten chokes, you’ll whine, “It’s a crap shoot and proves nothing.”

Yawn.

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By: calbert40 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204644 Thu, 20 Feb 2014 02:33:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204644 In reply to Laffy.

1) Since you are still evading the question, I’ll assume that is because you don’t want to give the obvious answer, which is the B1G is considerably better than the ACC.

2) The B1G/ACC Challenge only shows which individual teams are better on a given day in late November. It doesn’t prove which conference is better or deeper over the course of the entire season.

If you’d prefer to look at the Challenge as a better gauge of which conference is better, that is your prerogative, but I’ll look at the entire season’s body of work in order to make a more accurate judgment.

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By: William Hagenmaier https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204641 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:14:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204641 just be thankful they didnt give another game away

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By: Laffy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204640 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:27:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204640 In reply to calbert40.

Gosh, I didn’t know the game was decided by “stats/RPI” and was decided on the court.

And according to the SCOREBOARD, they were even.

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By: calbert40 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204635 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:26:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204635 In reply to Laffy.

I’m sorry. I must have missed your answer to the question. Do you believe that the ACC is a better conference than the B1G this year? If you like stats, the RPI doesn’t think it is very close this year.

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By: Laffy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204633 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:38:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204633 In reply to calbert40.

Are you being stupid on purpose just to get attention?

How many times do I have to say “pre-conference”?

So, stop listing Big Ten teams.

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By: Laffy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204632 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:36:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204632 In reply to calbert40.

I forgot.

If we do well in a tournament, that proves how awesome we are.

If we stink, it means it’s all a crap shoot and means nothing.

My bad

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By: kbb247 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204604 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:22:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204604 In reply to David Macer.

Never mentioned one thing about the kids or coaches not wanting to win. Not sure how u got that.

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By: Ratatatat https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204575 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:24:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204575 In reply to Alford Bailey.

Considering what has transpired after Davis left, I think IU was foolish to let him go. He was a good coach – as good or better than Crean. The recruiting would have caught up if he was given half a chance.

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By: calbert40 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204569 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:08:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204569 In reply to Laffy.

Learning how to play a 2-3 zone is easy. Playing AGAINST a zone is not, especially Syracuse’s zone. I was suggesting that it is easier for a team to learn how to play a 2-3 zone as their defense.

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By: calbert40 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204568 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:05:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204568 In reply to CreamandCrimson.

I’m in the “get off my lawn” crowd too, Cream, despite being just 35. I think there is an easy way to correct this, and I hope they do this sooner rather than later.

Split the conference into two divisions of 7 teams each. Play each team in your division twice (12 games). Play all other teams just once (7 games) rotating home and home every other season. That is 19 games. Just one more game. This way, every team has to play a schedule that is nearly the same difficulty.

The biggest problem with this scheduling option is that if they divide the conference based on geography, IU and Purdue are where the split would be. Maryland, Rutgers, PSU, OSU, MSU and UM are obviously in the East. Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois and NW are obviously in the West. IU and Purdue are on the dividing line. Unless they decided to move NW into the East and IU and PU into the West.

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By: calbert40 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204567 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:57:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204567 In reply to Laffy.

Do you honestly believe that the ACC is a better conference than the B1G? I’ve been following the B1G ever since I could read the sports page, and this is the deepest I ever remember it being. ANY team can beat ANY team on ANY night in ANY venue. I’ve never seen anything like it.

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By: calbert40 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204566 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:56:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204566 In reply to Laffy.

What team are you referring to, exactly? I used current RPI standings.

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By: calbert40 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204565 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:54:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204565 In reply to Laffy.

I said “by the end of the season, we will be somewhere in the 50s.”

I assumed that comment would make it fairly obvious that I was including the ENTIRE season and not just the non-conference slate.

The point being (again) that despite playing an easier non-conference schedule than we are used to playing, this team still ended up playing a pretty tough schedule…at the very least, much tougher than most like to believe.

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By: David Macer https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204544 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:24:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204544 In reply to kbb247.

Or use it against him….

Many of us live and die by wins and losses. I was one of those. I still hate losing, but now see it as a life lesson.

We all want IU to win. But if you don’t think these kids and coaches don’t want to win, you are solely mistaken.

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By: David Macer https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204542 Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:16:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204542 In reply to Toms Crean.

RMK never ever went after guys that were 5 star guys unless they were in IN, IL or OH. AAU has ruined HS basketball in the past 15 years. It used to be an emphasis on your HS coach not your travel coach.

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By: IUMIKE1 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204535 Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:47:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204535 In reply to CreamandCrimson.

Exactly !

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By: Laffy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/02/17/notebook-crean-radio-show-says-penn-state-loss-really-devastated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-204529 Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:26:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37075#comment-204529 In reply to calbert40.

I don’t know why you’re throwing out the ratings of Big Ten teams when I was talking about pre-conference….you know, the ones Tom picks to play…..which was my point.

And what about last year? We were expected to be great and STILL played Cupcake City.

And please stop with the “toughest conference in the country” nonsense. We tied with the ACC during the challenge.

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