Comments on: Montreal rewind: Yogi Ferrell https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/ Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball news, recruiting and analysis. Sat, 23 Aug 2014 17:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: fourputtsforsnowman https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-226547 Sat, 23 Aug 2014 17:21:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-226547 In reply to CreanFaithful.

Arch and CF,
I’m in your camp wrt YF: good, not great and with potential to be great…so far not developed. The Yogi-lovers’ don’t want to hear that. I’ll change my opinion when he garners double-teams and help defenders. Regardless of opinions of his status (good/great) I’ll enjoy watching him play. Specifically, I’ll watch for: 1) his on the ball defense (given his quickness it should be pure h*ll to be guarded by him); 2) his ability to drive and pass or shoot. His skills in the paint are underdeveloped through last year (he shoots only what, 32% in/around the paint per an excellent analysis by Alex here on ITH???) but he has the ability to command attention in the lane if he can improve his ability to both pass and finish. Lots of potential in this part of his game; 3) does he let JBJ and RJ and perhaps a few others blossom and lead? I’m particularly encouraged that both RJ and JBJ had numerous assists in the recent games. That’s a real strong positive in my opinion. Also, JBJ stated that he is preparing to play a lot of PG. That’s a strong positive in my opinion.

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By: Outoftheloop https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225950 Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:54:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225950 In reply to Ole Man.

We shall see. UNC is clearly above IU at this point.

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By: Michael Crawley https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225938 Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:12:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225938 Yogi needs to bulk up a little. This kid is like a super ball compact and retains 97% of his own energy once released good luck catching him.

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By: Ole Man https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225930 Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:08:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225930 In reply to Outoftheloop.

Paige is clearly above Yogi at this point.

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By: Outoftheloop https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225903 Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:17:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225903 In reply to Ole Man.

None of those that you mention are clearly above Yogi. A PG is like a QB, it is all about the W’s. But the team supporting him is important. UNC had an average year with great talent at every position. IU with Yogi had a sub-par year with a poor supporting cast. VanFleet had a great year with a once in a lifetime roster for WSU.

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By: CreanFaithful https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225878 Tue, 19 Aug 2014 01:01:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225878 In reply to Ole Man.

Thus “arguably.” Zero games played…

Edit: Not being controversial. Just pointing out the way it was phased. Which I find to be accurate.

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By: E Foy McNaughton https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225877 Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:25:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225877 In reply to Ole Man.

Maybe not the best, or an all American — but definitely one of the top ones in my humble opinion — probably to 5, maybe best in B1G

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By: Ole Man https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225876 Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:14:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225876 In reply to Gregory Spera.

Love your enthusiasm, but Yogi is hardly the best in the country. Begin with Marcus Paige at UNC. VanFleet at WSU will have an argument. Keifer Sykes at Green Bay shouldn’t be overlooked. Yogi is an excellent PG and I’m glad we have him; but there’s a lot of competition for the best.

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By: CreanFaithful https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225873 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:55:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225873 In reply to Arch Puddington.

I’m certainly one that has argued the point with you and others. Mainly, because I believe in the skill set, not necessarily in the outcome from a team like we had last year (even those his numbers stack up very well). But the proof is in the puddin’. Pun intended. Should be a great year for Yogi…

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By: Outoftheloop https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225871 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:51:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225871 The one sub-par game Yogi had, IU lost. We need Yogi to be consistently great all year long for this IU team to be a top 20 team! Go Yogi!

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By: Arch Puddington https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225870 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:24:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225870 I’ve gotten myself in trouble in the Forum by arguing that thus far in his career Yogi has been good, but not great, but whether you agree with me or not, there is every reason to believe he will emerge as a truly elite PG this year. Given his experience, the quality of his all-around game, and the weapons he will have around him, he can go from being the best player on a bad team to being one of the best players in the country. As with all things he will have to prove it on the court, but after the experience in Canada, during which the Hoosiers showed themselves to be a cohesive and explosive bunch, it looks pretty dang favorable for KevinYogiFerrell.

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By: CreanFaithful https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225865 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:22:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225865 In reply to Gregory Spera.

Well stated. I’ve maintained that Yogi doesn’t have to change his mindset this year. It’s well illustrated in the quotes. They take the drive, he can dish to formidable shooters. They don’t respect the drive, Yogi will burn them. They leave him open on the perimeter, he will shoot over the top. It’s simply the way the offense is intended to work. Take what the defense is giving you.

The difference ultimately is better conversion on dishes and less reliance on a last second contested shot, with improved ball rotation and overall ability to handle the ball amongst his teammates. That being said, on an individual level, I look for mid range game to improve as well as decrease turnovers.

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By: Gregory Spera https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225858 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:01:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225858 In reply to MK.

I don’t think Yogi will have any problem being a “distributor.” As a matter of fact, I don’t think he will have to adjust his game much at all. Remember, no matter how great that kick-out pass is, you don’t get credited with an assist if the player bricks the open jump shot or, even worse, disregards the open shot entirely. He could get three or four more assists per game with the very same passes, this season.

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By: MK https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225857 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:44:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225857 We need Yogi to be more of a distributor this year and see some of that passing ability he flashed in high school. Not only that but I would love to see more of leadership role from him too.

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By: Hardwood83 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225855 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:31:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225855 In reply to Gregory Spera.

Last season was ugly enough- now imagine it without Yogi!!
With other viable options I think he’ll be a monster.

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By: Gregory Spera https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/08/18/montreal-rewind-yogi-ferrell/comment-page-1/#comment-225854 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:27:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=40681#comment-225854 It’s no secret that Indiana is going to try to win with dominant guard play. Having (arguably) the best point guard in the country is a great place to start. Our smallest player is definitely our biggest advantage over most opponents. One of the few advantages we will have. Still the most important Hoosier, by far.

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