Comments on: With or without Harris, 2012 class should be special https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/ Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball news, recruiting and analysis. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Anonymous https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104846 Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:45:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104846 In reply to Anonymous.

McGary had made comments basically sayign he would of liked playing here but we stopped coming after him.

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By: Anonymous https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104834 Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:56:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104834 In reply to IUfanPurduePhD.

And didn’t Yogi’s mom post on here about that nerdturd who stole the thunder of Yogi’s announcement before his committment was “officially” made?

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By: Anonymous https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104833 Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:43:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104833 In reply to IUball.

Calm down guys. There’s room for Yogi at the point, Jordy as the dead-eye shooting #2, choose your poison at the wing, Cody at the 4, and I could see Hanner playing in the paint a lot at the 4.5 spot (or PJ at the #5..but i like a lineup with a 4.5 instead of a true center nowdays).

Everyone knows Jordy can still dish, so it’ll sorta be like having two PGs on the floor and one of them can DRILL from 3pt range. I’m not worried about how this pans out.

And BTW, Gary will make some other team’s fan base very happy..probably not going to be IU. And that’s okay.

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By: Anonymous https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104831 Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:31:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104831 except for the fact that Zeller at the 4 isn’t competing for Elston’s time at the 5.

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By: HoosierDavey https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104828 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 23:36:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104828 In reply to MillaRed.

Or maybe we could use him more on IU’s football team.  Though I’m beginning to wonder if anything can help that program….

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By: Kelin Blab https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104827 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 23:02:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104827 In reply to 888.

I think we have won some big time recruits, Zeller, Ferrell, Creek, Hollowell, Perea were all recruited and ranked at a national level. And we won them all. Trey Lyles, James Blackmon…win and win…

I also predict Devin Davis will climb the rankings in the next two season, that kid is a beast. We are winning just can’t win them all 888…by the way are you related to 999? (ez joke, had to do it)

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By: Anonymous https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104826 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:32:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104826 In reply to MillaRed.

You beat me to those keystrokes about DSR. If memory serves me right CTC was the one that backed off of McGary and not the other way around for whatever reason. I really feel like he would have came to IU if CTC had not backed off but he did and only time will tell if that was the right thing to do and even then there could have been other things that none of us knew about that influenced his decision to back off of him. We just have to trust Crean on stuff like that.

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104825 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:19:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104825 Sheesh indeed

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104824 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:18:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104824 In reply to 888.

Are you forgetting what our situation was 2 off-seasons ago? You’re acting like the violations/restrictions never occurred. Landing Zeller was a recruiting miracle with an assist from an angel named Austin Etherington.

We are going to land these type of players moving forward. And are incredibly blessed on what we have accomplished in the last year.

And by the way, IU didn’t want DSR, and I didn’t either.

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104823 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:14:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104823 In reply to IUfanPurduePhD.

I’m beginning to wish he would have chosen football at Arizona State.

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104822 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:11:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104822 In reply to Anonymous.

We all support Coach Crean. And he is going hard after Gary Harris. Therefore, we the fans, the same fans you have been going back and forth with all week, are agreeing he would look great in an IU uniform.

I just don’t think we all agree on 2012 being that more special with him than you do. And since his arrival means the roster will be affected, coupled with the possibility he is one and done, that puts me in a situation where if does not choose IU I think the program will be just fine.

IMO you are overrating the 2012 possibilities of the Indiana Hoosiers with GH. And after three dismal seasons seasons, CTC is doing everything he can to get the best players on a year to year basis. And I understand that too.

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By: Brklynhoosier https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104821 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:34:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104821 Um, first of all, neither Teague nor Dawson was Mr. Basketball last year.  In the last 2 yrs, we’ve gotten not one, not two, but 3 clear IN all-Americans in Cody, Yogi, and Hanner, with a good shot at sneaking Hollowell onto an all-American team, too.  Oh, and picked up a couple clear-cut 2014 IN all-Americans, plus 2 top-100 IN kids for 2013, with a good shot at a couple more.  We can’t get EVERY Indiana all-American — it’s a basic math problem:  the state produces too damn many.  We have the #1 2012 recruiting class, with a good shot at top-10 classes in 2013 and 2014.  I can understand being down on our record the last couple years, being down on the defense, the substitutions, the dribble-drive — where I can’t see the negativity is the recruiting, of all places.

Oh, and fwiw, we GOT the best IN player in 2012 — his name is YOGI.  The only reason for all this brouhaha over Gary Harris is he’s still uncommitted.  Sheesh…

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By: 888 https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104820 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:19:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104820 In reply to Kelin Blab.

thats my point.Were friggin IU and we have no shot at gettn the best players inb our state. Thats a huge problem. I cant remember UK, UNC having this problem. John Wall is the exception. We really must not be thought of on these programs levels ifwe have no shot at getting this type of player. Thats why we need to start winning the BIG ones. Gary will send a message like Cody did if we win the battle. If we lose it who else down the line will think gary went to UK and made it to the NBA when most of us know he would do the same at IU.

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By: Kelin Blab https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104819 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:49:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104819 We had NO shot at getting any of those guys, especially teague and McGary

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By: IUfanPurduePhD https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104818 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:04:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104818 In reply to HoosierDavey.

If the other schools he was considering were, say, UCLA, Pitt, and Texas, I think we’d be a little more okay with him going elsewhere.  But everybody hates PUke and pUKe, while MSU has been the strongest team in the B1G for the past decade (a position IU wants to reclaim).  It would be a little easier to watch him pick teams that we wouldn’t face … or have to hear about it from their annoying fanbase.

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By: IUfanPurduePhD https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104817 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:49:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104817 In reply to MillaRed.

Except that one time Tom Pritchard’s mom (AKA JerryCT’s one and only) showed up here…

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By: IUball https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104816 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:19:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104816 In reply to Kelin Blab.

I love Hulls, trust me. But he just doesn’t have the potential to pressure the ball like Yogi. And I think as Crean gets the talent, you will see his ball-hawking defense take shape.

Nor does Hulls have the same potential to push the ball in transition.

If Yogi were not so mature mentally, I could see Hulls outplaying him. But Yogi is special.But I expect Hulls to see lots of minutes from the bench. He can come in fresh and just fire away. Also Hulls will be instrumental in helping Yogi along through practice.Either way, the Big Ten will be ours

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By: IUball https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104815 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:09:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104815 In reply to Anonymous.

I love Hulls. He will fight hard and he will still have lots of minutes off the bench, providing lots of leadership. But Jordan isn’t going to start running a LOT faster and jumping a LOT higher all of a sudden.

Crean wants his point guard to not just attack the basket in the half court but also in transition, especially since we will have Cody and Hanner running the floor together.
By Christmas next year, they will be talking about IU as one of the most exciting college teams ever with our team speed and transition game.

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By: IUball https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104814 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:59:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104814 In reply to Anonymous.

No extra info. I was just at the scrimmage and saw both Will and Victor much improved shooting, ball-handling, awareness, defensive footwork and making good decisive decisions.
And it isn’t their “talent” that jumps year to year. They have the talent. It is experience, technique and maturity that improve year to year.Oh, and to be completely “clear,” I don’t think about what the “#2” shooting guard is considering in picking a school. I know any guard considering IU isn’t going have an easy time getting minutes.I do know how Yogi made his decision about school. He made sure he was going to play with Hanner and Cody. And that is the wisest decision a kid could ever make.

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By: Anonymous https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/10/21/with-or-without-harris-2012-class-should-be-special/comment-page-1/#comment-104813 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:49:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15274#comment-104813 In reply to Anonymous.

Ohio State also had Daequan Cook, another freshman who went to the NBA early (And flamed out). Derrick Rose wasn’t alone, he also had Chris Douglas-Roberts and Joey Dorsey, two more NBA players. Beasley also had Bill Walker, yet another NBA prospect. And John Wall by himself made Kentucky a top 5 time, how about (And this number isn’t an exaggeration) the 5 other NBA first round picks he played with. Did they make a difference perhaps? Duke only fell because they literally did not have another PG to play the position, they had to put Scheyer there just to get by, it wasn’t because Irving was so great (Although he had a ton of talent).

Don’t get me wrong, I want Harris, and freshman can be valuable, but they aren’t the sole indicator of success.

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