Comments on: More from Tom Crean’s breakout session at Big Ten Media Day https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/ Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball news, recruiting and analysis. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: stonaroni https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105597 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:00:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105597 In reply to Bleeding Crimson.

IT is CTC’s job to “MAKE” them get used to a post player before the seaon even starts.

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By: Bleeding Crimson https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105577 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:50:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105577 In reply to stonaroni.

Keep in mind that is will take several games for the guys to get used to have a post player.   This might not happen until the Mid Dec.

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By: Bleeding Crimson https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105575 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:45:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105575 In reply to Anonymous.

Hoosier89,
I used to play that game all the time and it only works about less than half.

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By: Bill Wilson https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105574 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:05:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105574 Well, the Tan Man with the Clappin’ hands sure speaks pretty.

Too bad his coaching records at Marquette and especially at IU don’t back up those words.

Clapping Tommy the Tan Man will be gone in two more years.

Bet on it.

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105573 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:42:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105573 In reply to jahhoosier.

Juan Dixon? JUAN DIXON! Ahhhhhhhhhh. Never say that name again please!!!!!!

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105572 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:41:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105572 In reply to stonaroni.

If it wasn’t Kentucky is was another great program I saw on ESPN last night.

Exhibition games mean diddly.

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105571 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:37:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105571 In reply to stonaroni.

Well, we know it’s a dribble-drive offense. A spinoff of a motion offense. I too have criticized what we were doing out there Ston. But there really is no way to tell until we have the best talent on the floor. Am I saying the best talent doesn’t require the best X and O’s? Ummmm, I think I am a little.

After taking it all in after last season, I don’t think it mattered what we were running out there. Too many mistakes that had nothing to do with the offense. What defense were we running? Didn’t matter. Our zone, man to man, 1-3-1, 4-5-6, 9-10-11 all sucked. We didn’t have the kids to pull it off.

This season will tell us a lot about CTC. And I think it will be talked about plenty.

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105570 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:33:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105570 In reply to stonaroni.

Are there any jokers in this deck? I’m confused. I just got back from Vegas. Seriously I did.

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105569 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:30:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105569 In reply to Gustin.

I hear you. It’s not like we do not want 20 wins. I’m just not sure we will get there. If we do, I will gladly apologize for my my insolence!

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105568 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:28:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105568 In reply to stonaroni.

Come on Stoner. Their bench is typically full of Micky D all-americans.

When Yogi, Hanner, Buss and Hollowell are competing for a starting job, that’s high major depth.

Derek Elston and Remy are not.

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105566 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:26:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105566 In reply to Anonymous.

In Evansville we mixed Boone’s Farm with Mad Dog 20/20 and the next morning our heads exploded. I know, that explains a lot. Go Bosse!

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105565 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:24:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105565 In reply to stonaroni.

Still……..holding……..breath……..

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By: Anonymous https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105563 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:45:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105563 In reply to stonaroni.

Thanks “…roni”, you and I are on the same page.

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By: Gustin https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105559 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:17:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105559 In reply to MillaRed.

I agree Milla, 20 Ws is too much to expect at this juncture, IMO, though it will be great if accomplished.  I too am expecting ~18 wins.  Any more is gravy!

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By: stonaroni https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105558 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:15:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105558 In reply to MillaRed.

Was that a joke or did you mis-read the 97-53 box score over Transylvania?

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By: stonaroni https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105556 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:11:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105556 In reply to Awunderground.

What exactly is his system?  JerryCT, Milla, myself and many others were searching for that answer the past few years.

I am just stoked that CTC is going to a true 3 guard set this year with the addition of a 4 guard set.  That means more scorers on the floor and less VJIII pounding the rock into dust at the top of the key.

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By: stonaroni https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105555 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:08:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105555 In reply to Anonymous.

Win or gone is a bit extreme, I agree.  But this is how I look at it.  We are in year 4 of CTC and no one can say excatly what offense or style CTC runs.  We have no clue what kind of defense or philosphies CTC can coach on D because it has been horrific the past 3 years.

To me, CTC has 5 cards in his hands. He has been checking and raising the past few years, buying into his vision.  Now it is time to show his hand and show us his vision and win consistently.  I do not think he has 4 of a kind, a full house or a royal flush just yet, but I am hoping he has 3 Aces at the very least.

I hope he wins the hand he chose and gambled on in 2011-12 so he can go all in in 2012-13.

For the sake of Hoosier nation, let’s hope CTC has a good hand and isn’t bluffing. We are optimistic, but another year like last year where we are the low hand at the Big 10 table would be cause for action.

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By: Anonymous https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105553 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:02:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105553 In reply to stonaroni.

Because (and thankfully this is all soon to change,) recently there’s been nothing remotely close to that to proudly discuss. 

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By: stonaroni https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105550 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:00:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105550 In reply to MillaRed.

ND is much weaker than last season and lost 80% of its scoring.  Butler lost 2 studs and just got beat by an avg DII team.  UK is elite, NC ST is a touch one, but Evansville should be a 20 point victory.

11-2 non conf, 9-9 Big 10 gets us 20-11.

We dance!

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By: stonaroni https://www.insidethehall.com/2011/11/02/more-from-tom-creans-breakout-session-at-big-ten-media-day/comment-page-1/#comment-105548 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:57:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=15626#comment-105548 We do not play an offense suited for your legit #5.  I will take Jurkin as a C who can give us some spurts of D. In 2012-13 we will have CZ, DE, and HP all playing the PF position.  CW and WS can fill that role too.  Then we will have a 6’6″ AE and Holloway at 6″7″ to play SF with 6’6″ WS. VO, AE, Remy, and Hulls can all play SG along with Patterson.  Yogi, Hulls and Remy can play point.

this will be an extremely versatile team.  If Mo’s ever healthy, that is a bonus.

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