Comments on: Second half run, rebounding too much for Hoosiers https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/ Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball news, recruiting and analysis. Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:27:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: bushworlda https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-2/#comment-44456 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:27:01 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44456 Mbt shoes are delivered around the world. Try to place an order of Mbt walking shoes and Mbt Chapa.

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By: cooper https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-2/#comment-44435 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:08:32 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44435 Sorry but Creek is not as good as Wall. Creek is a great college freshman. Wall is a NBA player now. No knock on Creek either but you can't compare him to Wall because of one unbelievable game by Creek.

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By: Marcus Gresham https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-2/#comment-44433 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:58:01 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44433 Zeller should commit AND talk his brother into coming home to be with him!

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By: hoosierboy https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-2/#comment-44428 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:11:18 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44428 Cals a cheater…. SAT…. those were a few of the funny chants! I laughed hard.

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By: IUMIKE1 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-2/#comment-44427 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:43:16 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44427 Alex:

I noticied that you removed the uk fan's comment and after getting his reply in my email I feel like I probably know why. I was not going to give him the satisfaction of another reply regardless of what his reply was to mine and probably should not have even gave him the satisfaction on even the first one. You probably just figured that you would just put a stop to it all the way around before it went any further. Don't blame you. Being less than 20 minutes from the state line fans in my area seem to have listen to even more than the usual amount of crap from their fans which is quite a statement in itself.

Guess that is one of the main reasons why I agree with Kelin in that while I was not at the game I did not hear anything myself being chanted that was out of line and / or not true. I stand by my points. Enough said, case closed, keep up the good work.

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By: IUMIKE1 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-2/#comment-44426 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:23:17 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44426 Kelin:
The Ben Allen analoty is a good comparison sounds like we both pretty much have the same views on Zeller and Plumlee but it looks like we probably have a better chance of getting Zeller than Plumlee. Both would be nice but then so would 80 degrees and sunshine in December and one has about the same chance of happening as the other looks like.

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By: I love IU https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-2/#comment-44425 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:13:51 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44425 Creek is our loan 5 star. How many time do he have to smash the so called 5 star (John Wall's of the world) to get in the same group if not better. I mean do Mo need to get stronger….NO, Faster…NO, Smarter….NO. He need other's on the team to step up. Crean can say he's behind because of the summer all he wants, but Creek is the bright spot on the team.

Before the game, Mo was 1.5 points behind Jonh Wall (the chossen one) and he's not a 5 star. What about now? Something is wrong with this STAR system. It's all favortism plan and simple. What a crock of Bull.

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By: Kelin Blab https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-2/#comment-44424 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:29:51 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44424 IUMike…

I am not completely sold on Zeller. I don't know how much Zeller helps us in these games as he is not a physical big man. I like his versatility but Zeller is more Ben Allen than DJ White, when it comes to their style of game. For me…I am more of a plumlee guy than zeller. But I would not be crushed if Zeller committed to IU.

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By: because it's Indiana https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-2/#comment-44423 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:59:10 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44423 Jerry, this analogy is perfect.

Nothing to add…just applauding. I hope others will read and better understand the process and not get all huffy like after Puerto Rico.

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By: Marcus Gresham https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-2/#comment-44422 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:04:40 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44422 No kidding! Are there even any prospects of getting someone 6'9″ or taller with some meat on his bones? Maybe they should look overseas if nothing else (although Euro big guys aren't exactly bruisers by reputation.) I'd even be open to a juco big guy (but not a fat one like the last one we saw in Bloomington,) if it helped on the boards. I think you might see Pritchard even blossom a bit if he got to slide over the the PF spot instead of having to be the de facto center.

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By: JerryCT https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-44421 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:54:32 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44421 I really admire TC's approach to IU basketball. If you look at it it is textbook stuff from corporate turnarounds;

Step 1 : Get Control ………so you clean house

Step 2: Build Stable Foundation ……….so you recruit 3-4 stars

Step 3: Build on Success ……….use current wins to get better recruits

Step 4: Swing for the fences …………get the one and dones

We are on step 2 barely and flirting with 3. If we get the 5 star fine but if not we stick to our game plan

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By: IUMIKE1 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-44420 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:56:10 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44420 Cooper:

Didn't intend to make it sound like what I said was how I felt I was just throwing something out there as to what might be behind Crean's comments if there even is anything to make out of them. Agreed, if it is a little bit of sour grapes he should keep it to himself and the other coaches because as you said if by some chance the recruit doesn't hear or read it himself I'm sure someone else recruiting him will be more than glad to tell him what was said and / or give him the website for him to see it for himself. I still think he will recruit the 5 star / one and dones because CTC knows bball and is smart enough to understand what the possibilities are with them on board at least ever so oflten. I also think with him being as competive as he is and losing as much as he has since he got here will be enough to keep him from not having anything to do with this type of recruit.

Here is a question I will throw out there for everyone. Should Zeller really be our number 1 choice in a big man for that class? I mean he is an Indiana kid I know but if someone bigger and better is available should we not go for him instead. Seen his team play Salem in the regional last year and was not exactly blown away by him and felt like Gunner Erwin from Salem clearly outplayed him, in that paticular game anyway, and he is considerably smaller than Zeller and if memory serves me right he threw down a dunk right over him. I know I know just because he got dunked on and his team lost does not make him less of a player than the Erwin kid and the Erwin kid was a senior and Zeller was alot younger and all that good stuff….. but it did make me go hmmmm a little bit.

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By: BaseballBuc https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-44419 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:22:15 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44419 McGary broke his foot over the weekend and will be out 4 weeks. But, I have seen McGary play and he's a really solid player. Once again though, Purdue recruits this area so well and they have been in contact with him since before he even played a high school game.

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By: Disco_Briscoe https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-44418 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:16:35 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44418 An athletic big man that can run and jump…if you catch the ball at the bucket then throw it down…whats this layup bs from 6'8''+'s????

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By: IUDan https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-44417 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:56:28 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44417 I think that is very true – in watching Crean's Marquette teams, they are similar to Izzo's MSU teams in that they generally send 3-4 guys to the glass. But I think against KY that is really dangerous, because most of the time you'll lose that battle anyway, and they'll kill you on the break. Calculated risk.

All in all, though, I thought we did alot of good things, played tough, but lack of an inside game really hurt . . . that being said, there are VERY few teams that can match up with them inside. Let's get a great post player in here!!!

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By: cooper https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-44416 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:43:05 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44416 You guys both make good points and I don't necessarily disagree but I guess a point I'd make is even if Crean feels that way, keep it in house. No need to publicize it. It has a way of making it sound like sour grapes or IU doesn't go for those players because we can't compete with other schools for them. Especially after a loss to a team with those players.

Recruits hear everything good and bad being said whether from other coaches, friends, handlers, etc. Think about how someone like Selby may react to that if he wanted to be a one and done. (I don't know if he is that type of player or not but you get my point) He could infer and another coach could use against IU that Crean doesn't want to deal with that type of player or worse doesn't know how to help get that player what he wants. Whether its true or not doesn't really matter.

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By: steveh43 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-44415 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:52:57 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44415 Is Alex related to Rick?
If so it would continue to explain the Indiana bias in the old man.

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By: UKDOESIU https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-44414 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:37:08 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44414 OK Whoosier Boy.
What is a Whoosier? Nobody can seem to tell me..None of our Titles has any NCAA Violations associated with them.We have not been on probation since 1988 for Basketball.Cal has never had an NCAA violation associated with his name..Self Reported ..B/S.IU got caught and to lessen the penalty …they plead guilty..We really OWN IU we have beaten you what15 out of the last 17 times…? Can you try a little harder..It's getting boring..

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By: Kelin Blab https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-44413 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:13:38 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44413 Cooper…I kinda agree with Crean and you, but, understand where Crean is coming from. From a coaches standpoint….you want good players for a long time as opposed to banking on great players for one year. Every year you don't want to replace a john wall or derrick rose, and it is hard to do….unless you have world wide wes…..

I also understand, there is ALOT of baggage that comes along with one and done kids, in the form of possiby street agents, tag a longs, and those surrounding the kid. I think this is why Crean hates the rule or wishes it was longer…..

Some years you definitely try for that big splash but if you have that upperclassmen team like PU does, is it really necessary?

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By: IUMIKE1 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/12/12/second-half-run-rebounding-too-much-for-hoosiers/comment-page-1/#comment-44412 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:09:32 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4690#comment-44412 Agree………maybe what he meant was that he was not going spend all his time chasing them.He will let them know he is interested in them coming to IU but he is not going to devote pretty much all of his spare time kissing their butts. If they want to come to IU great and if they don't then thats OK too. I think he may be still feeling a little burnt from the Irving thing and felt like he missed out on some other kids that he might have been able to get but passed on thinking that Irving was coming. Like I said I agree you just about have to have the one and dones to compete for a national championship any more. One of those types at the right time is the final piece to push you over the hump in alot of big games and very possibly take you up the ladder with the scissors in the last college bball game of the season.

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