Comments on: Hoosiers show lack of pride in blowout loss at Wisconsin https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/ Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball news, recruiting and analysis. Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:57:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47881 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:57:44 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47881 Sure, email me at jdwithro@indiana.edu

]]> By: MikeinNC https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47861 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:08:57 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47861 Wow, now you have me curious, do you have an email address where I can contact you so we can talk more in-depth, or a FB page? Curious to find out if I know your folks….

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47832 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:29:43 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47832 My mom's family is the Wood's

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47829 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:49:20 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47829 I think it's the wall. They just haven't mentally been here the last three games. Also, I think their shooting has been bad. In all of the games we have good showings in, we come out firing and hitting our shots. If we don't see the ball go in the bucket, we get sunk. FAST.

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47827 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:47:57 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47827 While I agree that people can't expect what Bobby would have done in these situations to apply because RMK never had to deal with something like this. This is foreign to almost every single basketball program in the country, outside of their beginning stages of a program. Sure, some teams have done it, but truly, how many of the elite programs in the country have ever had to be completely rebuilt as IU is? Stop saying what Bob would have done, and embrace the new regime. V, you couldn't have said it any better

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47822 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:44:45 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47822 It isn't as if the team hasn't played up to their potential all year? Unless I am very mistaken, you weren't claiming Crean to be arrogant and self promoting when we were winning ball games. They have played as a reflection of Coach Crean at several points this year. They played with a calm and confidence that Crean shows when they played Pitt, Michigan, Illinois close loss, Purdue close loss, the Maryland game, the first half against Kentucky. They have taken the personality of their coach, but then they have a breakdown and now Crean is a terrible coach? I don't get you, but you seem set in your ways so we will have to agree to disagree

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47817 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:39:44 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47817 So was my mom. She won homecoming queen and my dad played baseball for our high school team. He graduated in 83. My aunt graduated in 81 also. My family has been in Valpo for a long time

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47820 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:49:20 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47820 I think it's the wall. They just haven't mentally been here the last three games. Also, I think their shooting has been bad. In all of the games we have good showings in, we come out firing and hitting our shots. If we don't see the ball go in the bucket, we get sunk. FAST.

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47824 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:49:20 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47824 I think it's the wall. They just haven't mentally been here the last three games. Also, I think their shooting has been bad. In all of the games we have good showings in, we come out firing and hitting our shots. If we don't see the ball go in the bucket, we get sunk. FAST.

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47828 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:49:20 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47828 I think it's the wall. They just haven't mentally been here the last three games. Also, I think their shooting has been bad. In all of the games we have good showings in, we come out firing and hitting our shots. If we don't see the ball go in the bucket, we get sunk. FAST.

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47819 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:47:57 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47819 While I agree that people can't expect what Bobby would have done in these situations to apply because RMK never had to deal with something like this. This is foreign to almost every single basketball program in the country, outside of their beginning stages of a program. Sure, some teams have done it, but truly, how many of the elite programs in the country have ever had to be completely rebuilt as IU is? Stop saying what Bob would have done, and embrace the new regime. V, you couldn't have said it any better

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47823 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:47:57 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47823 While I agree that people can't expect what Bobby would have done in these situations to apply because RMK never had to deal with something like this. This is foreign to almost every single basketball program in the country, outside of their beginning stages of a program. Sure, some teams have done it, but truly, how many of the elite programs in the country have ever had to be completely rebuilt as IU is? Stop saying what Bob would have done, and embrace the new regime. V, you couldn't have said it any better

]]> By: valpohistory https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47818 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:44:45 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47818 It isn't as if the team hasn't played up to their potential all year? Unless I am very mistaken, you weren't claiming Crean to be arrogant and self promoting when we were winning ball games. They have played as a reflection of Coach Crean at several points this year. They played with a calm and confidence that Crean shows when they played Pitt, Michigan, Illinois close loss, Purdue close loss, the Maryland game, the first half against Kentucky. They have taken the personality of their coach, but then they have a breakdown and now Crean is a terrible coach? I don't get you, but you seem set in your ways so we will have to agree to disagree

]]> By: robinnc https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47776 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:09:14 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47776 This is a very much appreciated post, and very insightful. I also appreciate hearing from a young fan, someone who has thoughts from a perspective other than that of those of use who remember the glory years under Knight, and yearn for a quick return to such days where we expected to win every game.

]]> By: marsh21 https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47772 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:44:31 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47772 Yes, Evan Turner and others. It sucks to be laughed at like we are. Just imagine how the players feel…

Not sure what happened with the handshake. I tried to find something on it but came up empty. There is certainly something wrong with their relationship.

]]> By: IUMIKE1 https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47767 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:32:27 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47767 aceman07 could not agree more with your post. I have been saying for some time now that Watford is going to be at his best if we can get to a point where he can play the 3. This will allow for him to shoot over shorter defenders in the post and over them on the outside and go around bigger slower defenders. Crean's offense may not be big man oriented but with this team sooooo many other things will, I think, be determined by how well Bawa's development goes. Not only does his development allow CW to play the 3 but opens up so many more options for so many other players on so many other things and just generally gives Crean the flexability to open up his playbook in full. Something else it does, down the road, is helps us in recruiting another quality big man that is ready to contribute right off the bat and haviing a quality big man on the roster is going to make the big time recruits at the other positions look at us and go… OH YEA he's going to help my game and help me look good. So like I said you are completely right and the sooner Bawa steps up and starts making an impact on this team the sooner we get back to where we all want to be.

]]> By: Kelin Blab https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47765 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:36:19 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47765 Ace that is a realistic and great expecatation of Bawa by the time he is a junior. I know we alllll wanted him on the court early and crean said not yet. Obviously he is raw but has made some strides and I can see him being a solid defender. He seems to hold his ground well and will add to his already “jobe” like body. I wish other could see beyond this year but I think Crean is on his way….

G-VJ3 -Sr.
G Creek -Jr
G Hulls -jr
F- Wateford jr
C. Bawa Jr
or TP

This is NOT a bad lineup and a tourney team, not to mention Elston, Carlino, Sheehey, VO, Etc.
Next year if we got 5-6 rebounds and a couple of blocks out of Bawa, that is solid and I am for certain this kid will work at it during the offseason. If Tijan is the most improved player from last year according to Crean, what would he do with Bawa who has some skills coming in…..

Now if we get a zeller or Plumlee…..IU is there in two years. I wish people can see that….

]]> By: aceman07 https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47763 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:17:35 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47763 I have one thing to say to those of you who are braving the away games this year! It's like taking your cousin to her senior prom as a sophomore cause she can't find a date! LOL. People look at you like, “Awe, you poor soul”!

God bless you for having the stones to go watch this team on the road and feel like your cousins date!

]]> By: aceman07 https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47762 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:15:05 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47762 Right on brother! I would appreciate it if you would move up the screen next time you're on here and respond to my opinion on Bawa's future and what it would mean to the positioning of the other players and the future.

]]> By: aceman07 https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/02/13/hoosiers-show-lack-of-pride-in-blowout-loss-at-wisconsin/comment-page-2/#comment-47760 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:12:29 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=5547#comment-47760 What I would like to know is what was different against Illinois and Purdue? I watched both games in their entirety as I'm sure most of you did and I remember seeing off the ball screens, players moving without the ball, and open shots!!! What the heck happened? We're all the sudden back to the stagnant, stale looking stand around and watch the weave offense with no movement or fluidity at all! Why? Is it that the players have just given up or hit the proverbial wall or did we scheme differently for those two games and then went back to the regular crap after?

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