Comments on: What to Expect: Michigan https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/ Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball news, recruiting and analysis. Sun, 09 Mar 2014 02:21:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: HoosierKen73 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207422 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 23:38:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207422 In reply to Bruce.

I think CTC has had some good games, re: ‘in game coaching’.. and he definitely has had some bad ones. I really do feel though, that when he has a great game and we pull a big upset, he doesn’t get the accolades he deserves. That is why I say ‘some fans’. Not all fans are like that, but I think you’d have to agree he doesn’t receive the love after a big win, is proportion to the hate, after a bad loss. .I do question his substitution patterns in many games though.. Just don’t see it sometimes..

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By: Bruce https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207421 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 22:14:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207421 In reply to HoosierKen73.

I am a huge fan but how anyone can marvel at ctc in game coaching is beyond me. We comment because we care and IU fans in general know the game of bb

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By: SCHoosier https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207412 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 19:54:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207412 In reply to HoosierKen73.

If nothing else the NIT needs some teams that will draw a TV audience and sell out their arena…Indiana fills that bill. I hope NV sits out of this meaningless game..and tries to be ready for the b-10 tourney.

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By: HoosierKen73 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207406 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 18:19:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207406 In reply to RonB.

I guess I would have to agree with you, that good shooting will cover up a multitude of sins.. The point is however, if we’re turning the ball over at a rate of 18 or 19 per game (I’m not sure what our to rate really is), and it’s a 60 possession game, that means that roughly one third of the time we come down the floor, we do not get a shot that we could have had. Even if were only hitting 30% of our shots, that’s almost 6 baskets per game. Now no team or almost no team has zero turnovers. But if we reduced the turnovers to say a more manageable 6 or 8 that’s 12 more shots and maybe three more baskets..
I know the real crux of the problem has been poor shooting and am thankful Coach. has some help on the way. I don’t have the stats to back it up, but I also think one of our problems has been timely shooting. It seems like when we’ve really needed to score.. maybe late in games, to retake the lead, or just to hold onto the lead. the shots just won’t fall. Look at the Penn State game.. the thing that tightened it up initially at the end, was we brought the ball down two or three times, failed to connect.. then the turnovers started.. to where we couldn’t even inbound the ball to even get a shot. Then Yogi came down with yet another chance to win it.. and he really didn’t get off a very good shot, but it didn’t go in. I would have bet good money that it wasn’t going to.. Because nearly every time we’ve had that scenario, we’ve failed to make the shot. Not sure if it’s a confidence factor, or what, but we just do not seem to be able to consistently score when it’s really crunch time. I love this team, I just wish we’d have had more success this year. I do believe they all want to win.. and for the most part have played very hard. Just not winning. Sorry this got so long.

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By: RonB https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207396 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 16:30:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207396 In reply to HoosierKen73.

Ken, I know everyone on here talks about turnovers as our main reason for losing and while they have been bad they are not the main reason we lose. Look at the last 4 games. In the Wisc and Neb. games we lost but had just 10 turnovers in each game well below our yearly average. Then take the Ohio St. and Iowa games we win with 18 and 17 turnovers. Why? The real reason this team has struggled is shooting and scoring points. Shooting covers a multitude of errors. When we shoot decent we win. When we shoot poorly even with lower turnovers we lose. I am not saying turnovers don’t need fixed but what I am saying is this team needs some players who can put the ball in the basket most every game and we do not have that. Coach has some coming but unless some guys get hot we will have ups and downs for the rest of the year.

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By: Alford Bailey https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207394 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:26:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207394 Oh, just go ahead and rub it in why don’t ya!

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By: HoosierKen73 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207392 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 14:28:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207392 In reply to JWaltFTW.

Gosh I hope you’re right.. But I just fear the turnovers. I would be elated if we could keep those to under ten or close to that and pull the win.. But after some thirty games it still continues to haunt this team. I just don’t think we can play like that and win this one.

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By: HoosierKen73 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207391 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 14:23:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207391 Earlier John, I would have never agreed with you. I don’t think he is a bad as some on here try to make him.. and he has done some really good things in games.. But he does leave me scratching my head over his substitution patterns. After watching him for these five years or so.. really don’t think that part is going to change. I wish it would.. but I don’t think it ever will. And I do think that is causing him to not be nearly as good of a coach as he could be. He certainly has some good points about him, but that one thing, I have come to believe is a very big detriment.

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By: HoosierKen73 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207390 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 14:19:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207390 In reply to Blair McKee.

Gotta agree with you on that one. The fans on here, and sometimes I even question whether they are true fans.. will be brutal.
But in fact, I also expect after this loss.. another one in the first game of the B1G Tourney. Just don’t think anything else is going to happen. I hope and pray I’m wrong.. but that’s just my take on it.

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By: HoosierKen73 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207389 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 14:15:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207389 In reply to CreamandCrimson.

Someone on here equated it to.. almost like being a Cub fan this year.. So true. Still love these guys though. I know they want to win as badly as we want them to. Probably even more, so imagine how frustrating this season has ben for them Sad, very sad.
Go Hoosiers! Gosh I would love to see a ‘w’ today.

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By: HoosierKen73 https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207387 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 14:08:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207387 I would really be shocked if we even come close in this one. I would be elated if we won, but my take is.. We’re going to lose today and then drop the first one in the B1G Tourney.. and then not get an invite to even the NIT. So if Noah doesn’t play today and doesn’t play again next week in the B1G.. There’s a distinct possibility we may not see him in an Hoosier uniform again. I hope that’s not the case, but the positivity has been taken out of me. I love these guys and like our potential.
Think that potential would be a lot better if Noah stays, but even if he goes.. I think we will be a much better team than this year.
It just seems like every time this year that I’ve thought we’re going on a roll.. they come up with another ‘stnker’ (to use an oft used phrase by Ole Man) of a game.
Oh, I still want them to win and will be so nervous I will have trouble watching, but I just don’t think we have it this year. As Yogi puts’ it we lost our ‘Mojo’.. but I question whether they really ever had it. So many games, that turnovers have killed us and if we haven’t solve that by this point in the season, we aint goin’ to. Just my opinion, but I think this one is pretty much over for us.

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By: HoosierGrampy https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207379 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 05:38:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207379 In reply to JWaltFTW.

Whether NV plays or not, HMP, DD and TW are capable of yeomen efforts on the boards. If these 3 don’t see significant time on the court, it’ll be 1 and done. I’d really like to see what TW, WS, YF, NV(DD) & HMP could do on the court for some extended playing time…I’m thinking W all the way.

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By: JWaltFTW https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207376 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 05:01:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207376 In reply to Alford Bailey.

Please don’t label me so hastily, as that was not at all the point I was trying to make. Also, by saying that they’re “due” to beat us isn’t a rational statement at all. Since we’ve beaten them a lot recently that just gives them some unknown edge? No, it means we have a gameplan for Michigan that works.

I completely disagree that this game doesn’t mean much. Beating the conference champs on the road would be a HUGE confidence booster. Downplaying a game just because you think we’ll lose is being unfair. I firmly believe every game counts. Also last I checked spreads don’t indicate the final score, teams do.

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By: Alford Bailey https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207374 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 04:28:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207374 In reply to JWaltFTW.

Gotta love these “Holier than thou”/ “I’m a better fan than you” comments. Here’s your analysis. Pomeroy and Sagarin have UM + 12 points. IU may be without NV again. Its UM senior night. Finally UM is just due to win against us. This game doesn’t mean much. At this point get NV healthy, prepare for Illinois and then maybe a rematch with Michigan.

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By: RonB https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207367 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 02:23:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207367 Maybe I can give you a coach’s view since I was one for many,many years. I do not want you to think I am some Crean lover trying to figure out all his subbing during a game but the word HOT to most fans means scoring. For Coaches Hot means a whole lot more than making a shot. I used a version of Coach Knight’s motion offense which was popular when I coached. Today it is the dribble drive and pick and roll offense but the same things are still important.
A hot player for me was one who defended well, set good picks, moved the ball and passed well, followed the game plan we worked on before the game, good shot selection, being unselfish, weak side defense, lack of turnovers, rebounding, assists, no hot dogging and then scoring the ball within the offense and game plan. If a player went out on his own and made a shot I pulled him. We talked about what he did wrong or an assistance coach talked to him and then he went back into the game. I lost some games early in the season bending their will into a TEAM. I know this is over used but there is no I in team.
That said, this IU team has taken much longer than normal understanding what it takes to win as a team and I know that is hard on the Coaches and Players. Remember however, that they had some great wins recently and had started to turn the corner. They beat ranked teams without Noah. He could have been a big difference in the last game however NEB. is for real. I have not heard how Noah is but his return could help IU surprise some teams. I am also with u on some of the subbing makes me wonder but only the Coaches no why and it is not all about just making a basket. Watch the scorers table. Sometimes Coach sends a sub down there and before the new player gets in the one he is subbing for makes a good play. Also Yogi does not have a good back up point guard and he is playing way too many minutes. Tired legs will throw your shots off and you usually shoot the ball short even an air ball. Sorry I did not intend for this to be so long.
He could have made a big difference in the last game.

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By: And One https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207365 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 02:18:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207365 In reply to JWaltFTW.

Sounds like a plan. I really hope you’re right.
And hey, I’m no fair weather fan, I just have a bad feeling about this one. Nothing scientific, just afraid that our guys are susceptible to getting steamrolled by a real good team on their home court on senior night. Could lightning strike twice, and they pull it off? Of course. But I stand by my prediction, from a dedicated, passionate fan of Hoosier hoops: it’s gonna be tough to watch.

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By: JWaltFTW https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207361 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 01:35:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207361 The negativity and pessimism in some of these posts is truly pathetic. Predicting beatdowns and situations where no matter what happens we will lose? I understand that there is realism, but stop acting fairweather and at least provide some analysis to why you think IU will lose. “We lost last game so now our season is over” has been the trend of many ITH commenters, and think we’ve all had enough of it.

So not to be a hypocrite, I will provide why I believe we will win.

I believe a fire will be sparked in Sheehey, and he dominates the mid-range game. Whether or not NV plays, we win the rebounding game. Yogi will not be able to guard Stauskas like he did last game, providing that Coach Beilein has a gameplan to get Stauskas free. Essentially, let Stauskas beat us, not Michigan.

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By: Alford Bailey https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207360 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 01:30:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207360 Marion lost in the sectional. Can we pick JBJ up on the way to Michigan?

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By: Hoosier Hall https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207359 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 00:25:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207359 Really don’t know what to expect from these Hoosiers. We will probably win this one (inexplicably) which won’t really matter. At this point, a win would save a little face and be a nice road win against a ranked team. It won’t have any bearing on our NCAA tournament hopes and our seeding in the Big 10 tourney is really of no importance either. We need to win the conference tournament and we will have to play pretty much the same teams no matter where we are seeded. Plus, we have lost to every lower seeded team in the conference. I just hope we find some magic, maybe it will come from the new uniforms! 🙂

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By: dwdkc https://www.insidethehall.com/2014/03/07/what-to-expect-michigan-6/comment-page-1/#comment-207358 Fri, 07 Mar 2014 23:15:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=37854#comment-207358 Gut check time after that deflating loss. This team has responded well in these situations before however. I just want to see a solid effort and well played game. Really more concerned about how they finish as a springboard to next year.

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