Comments on: The Morning After: Michigan, or clapping alone https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/ Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball news, recruiting and analysis. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:18:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: MGOBLUE https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-37998 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:18:44 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-37998 If you don't like the announcers hit MUTE, Thanks for the memories

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By: MGOBLUE https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22069 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:18:44 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22069 If you don't like the announcers hit MUTE, Thanks for the memories

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By: Brian https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-67214 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:35:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-67214 Fun to watch Tommy Boy play cheerleader and coach…keep clapping…

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By: fergrad https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22068 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:29:48 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22068 The announcers last night made me want break things. “Assembly Hall is as quiet as a library!”. Dork. I am actually physically ill today and I'm officially blaming it on those two jackasses.

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By: CoveyDale https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22065 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:02:51 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22065 hahaha. touche.

but honestly i do like Rafferty – much more than seven cats getting shredded in a lawn mower.

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By: Matt_J https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22063 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:06:15 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22063 Seven cats in a bag being run over by a lawn mower is 1, 000,000,000X better than Packer.

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By: danprs https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22061 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:43:52 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22061 Crean will demonstrate his poor game coaching to the Indiana fans. Rah! Rah! is good for the program, coaching during the games wins games. MU fans lived with Crean's game decisions now Indiana fans will have to endure.

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By: CoveyDale https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22059 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:41:47 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22059 Rafferty is 1,000,000,000X better than Packer.

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By: Young Kelin Zeller https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-67212 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:24:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-67212 In reply to TexasHoosier.

I love Roth also, I hope he works on his ballhandling….he is a SHOOTER! I hope they start setting some screens for him….

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By: brosallman https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-67211 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:19:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-67211 Dumes has a lot of Bracey Wright in him, too much leeway and too little talent.

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By: hoosier53 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-67210 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:18:00 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-67210 I am not crazy about the way Dumas played. The long shots made me cringe until they went in and then they made me cheer. The erratic dibble/drive/dish/turnover menu keeps me on the edge of my seat praying that he will pass before he loses total control. The bad decision at the last made me want to cry. Had he made the shot or drawn a foul I am sure I would have cheered.

That all being said I must say you sound like a University of Kentucky fan the way you want to throw this guy under the bus. Living close to the border I hear their diatribes all the time and try to keep from falling under their influence. Keep it in perspective, keep it real, keep it clean. Yeah I did not have faith with the 20 point lead because I saw what they did with it the last time they were up……….but we were in the game…………….we were close to a win…….we were where we could dream of a victory. This year is a total do-over and we need to remember that as the disappointments continue to happen. They looked so much better in the last two games than they have during the pre-conference schedule that I acutally have hope that sometime this year we may actually steal one.

Be an IU fan, realistic, not a UK fan – a total ……….

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By: IndianaJoe https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22057 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:35:19 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22057 That's what I was feeling also, but I will pose this question. When should we expect more from this team? Because if we do, there's always going to be somebody that says this team is young and doesn't have enough talent. I think we should expect play just like the first half of the game. I know that's not going to happen but the team just raised their ceiling of potential.

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By: indianajoe https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22054 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:26:11 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22054 That's what I was feeling also, but I will pose this question. When should we expect more from this team? Because if we do, there's always going to be somebody that says this team is young and doesn't have enough talent. I think we should expect play just like the first half of the game. I know that's not going to happen but the team just raised their ceiling of potential.

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By: MillaRed https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22055 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:18:55 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22055 I think another thing to consider here is Coach Crean. Dumes really hasn't made any adjustments to his game since game 1 and Coach has to take some responsibility there. Coach also made two decisions down the stretch I wasn't thrilled about.

We're up 3 points with possession and freshmen all over the place. As soon as Pritchard makes that skip pass and we cross half court CALL TIMEOUT!!!! These guys need to be TOLD how to close it out.

Then with a tied game and 20 seconds on the clock with possession, he calls tiemout with 7 seconds left? That's not enough time to run a set.

Don't get me wrong. CTC is our boy I know that. But these decisons affected the outcome of the game.

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By: cooper https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22053 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:44:59 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22053 Williams and Jones were very good I think, though Williams disappeared in the 2nd half. He never seemed to get the ball and they went away from him in the post where he was great in the 1st half. Jones played very well, and has definitely taken over PG for now. I didn't see Pritchard play real solid at all, I thought he got worked over the entire second half. Maybe I'm wrong… Dumes is what he is. He needs a PG that won't give him the ball all the time. In the 2nd half the offense turned to throw Dumes the ball and hope he bails the team out. A great first half, but 62.5% from 3 in the first half is fools gold. Team played very well in the 1st half but thats what really makes it a bad lose

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By: Tyce https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22052 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:07:14 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22052 Normally, I like to give guys the benefit of the doubt. After reading all of these comments I think all points have been made on Dumes, but seriously how do you make those plays. I agree we have to have someone who will try and score points, but even on a lot of those shots that fell in the first half I still didn't like the shots. Its not a good example for anyone else to follow, even Devan himself. I think what it really boils down to is this… This team is not a very good team, but it was the best we could get, I can live with that, easily, but the one area of the game that we can compete with other teams in is smarts, its INDIANA basketball, and lack of smarts is why we lost last night. It may have looked like we were trying not to lose in the second half and using the shot clock, when in reality we just managed to not turn it over until late in the shot clock then never got a better shot than a 3 with a hand in your face. With all the missed free throws, with all the turnovers, and even the lack of offense, we had that game won in regulation. That is whats so frustrating is that we lost because of a few plays that most of the educated basketball fans on IU could have made in their sleep when they were 7. I don't mind being out abilitied by a team because its going to happen this year, but when we give up games (even ones we shouldn't win) because we don't know basketball situations at INDIANA that's when its time to be very upset with our play.

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By: SteveEyl https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22051 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:03:44 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22051 Word.

How about the one in the second half where somebody (Verdell?) drove to the bucket from the left wing, and just dissapeared off the screen. And all the while, Hamilton is going on about what a great shot it was.

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By: HoosierSmitty https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22050 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:53:14 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22050 Yeah, you look at the game and Dumes was great in the first half. I think we were up 6 (maybe just three) late in the game when he popped two straight threes on one possession. He was trying to give us that BOOST forward…and ice the game, but it didn't happen. He's doing what he knows…and sometimes it's brutally frustrating….

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By: hoosier53 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22048 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:32:55 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22048 I have to agree that the way Dumas plays keeps me on the edge of my chair. When he shoots those unreal shots I cringe until they go in and then I jump and shout. When he starts dribbling the ball it is like spinning the wheel of fortune waiting for it to land on turnover or slicing move or charge or succesful feed. You never know what you are going to get but some times it looks good. And that last 2 on 1 decision………..man I felt like I wanted to cry, but if he had made the shot or drawn a foul then I probably would have justed taken a deep breathe and thanked the BB gods for dodging another turnover bullet.

That all being said your post sounds a whole like what I hear from UK fans that I am surrounded by down here in Southern Indiana. Praising a player or crucifying him depending on how he played the last game (or the last half) is a part of their DNA. It is something IU fans should be careful to avoid.

This whole year is one big do-over. We knew that going in. We expected a few bright moments but knew for the most part it was going to be a year to want to forget. In the last two games this team has played so much better than it did in the pre-conference games that it actually gives me hope that we might steal one down the line. But let's be realistic……there is a really good chance that even with the faith and zeal of CTC this team is liable to slowly but surely begin to fold under continuing disappointment. Don't want to be one to praise them where it is not deserved but I really don't want to be a post where they will be trashed when they make the decisions we expect this group of young players to make. Of this group how many do you really think would be getting major time on an established top level D1 team. Keep it real…….they are playing way over their head and being put into situations where they will most likely fail.

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By: Kelin Blab https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/01/08/the-morning-after-michigan-or-clapping-alone/comment-page-1/#comment-22047 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:32:45 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=1926#comment-22047 People lay off Dumes because he is one of the few IU players that can get his own shot and consistently plays with confidence. Does he make mistakes…YES…Does he take bad shots…..YES…..BUT without Dumes last night IU loses that game in regulation. Lets not forget he is new to this level of college basketball so it is an adjustment……

I think Devan at times trys to be “the man” for this team and show some leadership but tries to do it in the wrong way, we always don't need the big shot or big play…..

Again without Dumes, we are losing to Michigan and some other teams alot worse….

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