Comments on: The Morning After: Hey, That’s Doc Rivers! https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/ Indiana Hoosiers men's basketball news, recruiting and analysis. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:15:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: rockrob https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42918 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:15:47 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42918 Excellent read. Right on the money with the “Brown Shirt, brown slacks” comment. Not sure I want to play at USC Upstate, But then what are my choices? Campbell? Go play for Isiah at Florida Intl?

Pitchard too. His steadiness (?) could look good. And doesn't an IU sophomore who played a lot last year make you believe they should be tougher this year, and gonna make me frustrated when they go all stupid on us. (Yeah. Devan, I see you….). Or that maybe the ordeal has polluted them beyond repair….

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By: plane1972 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42742 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:48:26 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42742 Wasn't trying to single you out, Smitty, with the “crazy” comment. Just a figure of speech, no disrespect intended.

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By: HoosierSmitty https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42734 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:22:39 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42734 I don't see how I was going “crazy about Dumes.” I just don't feel like he deserves some of the disrespectful comments thrown his way.

Many of the comments seem to reveal a distate toward Dumes, more than likely because of last year's issues rather than his actual game play.

If Coach Crean still belives in Devan, then I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up as a poor performance, nothing more, nothing less.

He's not the only one forcing the issue.

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By: BaseballBuc https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42733 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:18:34 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42733 Ya heres a blog by Chris Korman who spoke with his mother http://blogs.heraldtimesonline.com/iusp/?p=5653

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By: plane1972 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42711 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:39:30 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42711 Landing Selby would get a little easier if Brandon Knight goes with either Kentucky or Kansas over Florida. That would help eliminate one of those two giants from the process. Syracuse seems set at the point for awhile with Triche and another kid. Not sure how Miami fares in this crowd. Playing and going to school in South Florida could be pretty appealing, I guess.

I like our chances. Perhaps the sun is just making me overly optimistic today.

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By: aerialM https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42707 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:20:10 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42707 agreed. he's pushing, so is VJ, so is Rivers. they're all trying to do too much. i'm hoping we just need a few weeks to sort out rotations and situations and all that, learning to practice, learning to deal with pain, and being tired or sore, to get our roles defined.
and why aren't we talking about Tom Pritchard? like, how long until Elston is starting & Tom is 1st off the bench (or maybe 2nd to Dumes)? he's been a disappointment thus far, as far I can see it. he should be a guy really contributing, but he's been so/so thus far this year…not to be negative.

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By: aerialM https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42706 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:14:09 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42706 I nearly yelped outloud when I saw that. it might not be legit, but it made my night!
it'd be HUGE for selby to sign with us. it'd make us a top 25 team like that! it's awesome to even be in the discussion with some of these guys, let alone make it to national news with them.

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By: Azur Allen https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42705 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:14:04 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42705 i just saw that and was caught off guard. i agree w/ u its probably not legit, but at least its espn. is it possible to get a recap on how his visit went here?

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By: Mike04 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42704 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:50:58 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42704 It's nice to be able to critique wins again- last year I think we would have all just been ecstatic to have gotten away with a win. With this years team's talent, as long as they play as hard as they did last year, the Hoosiers will walk away with a few big time upsets.

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By: dale11 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42703 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:05:59 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42703 He wouldn't really be joining his brother as Jeremiah will have graduated by the time Austin starts.

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By: Alex https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42702 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:00:25 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42702 Bell was there.

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By: hoostheman https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42701 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:43:54 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42701 Agreed… Elston was the guy I was most excited about in this class. He flew under the radar a bit because of the knee injury but you can already tell he's got the “it” factor to impact the game at both ends of the floor. It's going to be truly awesome to watch he and the rest of this freshman class develop over the next four years.

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By: hoostheman https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42700 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:39:18 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42700 Not sure if Bell attended the game but the reports on him say he's still developing but has huge upside. Decent shooter for his size (6-8), smooth game, and extremely athletic. He's also very young for his class and is probably still growing. Before moving to Bloomington a few of the smaller recruiting sites had him as the potential #1 recruit from Illinois in the class of 2012.

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By: Hoosier95 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42699 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:31:36 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42699 Can someone explain to me how Florida was able to lock up Austin Rivers (class of 11) without IU getting any consideration. Why not join his brother? Doc seems very high on CTC as well.

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By: plane1972 https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42696 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:40:51 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42696 This is going to be a negative comment about one of our boys, and I don't mean for it to be. However, I believe some people have a distorted view of Devan Dumes's ability on the court and ability to lead a team. Sure he is a senior who led our team last year, but he is only a second-year player in a storied program. He was asked to take on a leadership role last year by shear virtue of his age on a team that was worse than merely inexperienced. God bless those guys for what they accomplished last year, but let's not go crazy about Dumes. Consider him on a team like Purdue or Michigan State and he would be role player, at best.

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By: BaseballBuc https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42695 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:37:57 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42695 ESPN insider says Selby could be leaning toward Indiana. I don't think it is very legit, but Selby's mom did say the visit went really good. I've have learned however, not to get my hopes up. But it is nice to dream.

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By: Kreigh_Smiths_Short_Shorts https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42694 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:08:24 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42694 Did anyone else notice when VJ III got tangled up with one of the USC Up players (in the second half), they both went down, and VJ just happened to let his foot “fall” onto the other guy's face? Seemed like he was taking a little page from Dumes' book. I love the aggressive nature and competitiveness, and I understand getting worked up in the heat of battle, but I don't want to see stuff that seems cheap or thug-like.

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By: bloomingtonian https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42693 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:42:36 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42693 The points made about the play of Dumes and VJIII are spot on. I would go back to what CTC said in one of his pregame pressers. To paraphrase, the guys who are back from last year's team are going to have to adjust to competition for playing time. So you have Dumes and VJIII out there forcing up shots trying to prove something. Now maybe Crean should be pulling guys out of the game for forcing shots to make a point, but you also know at some point this season IU will need the experience, especially in the Big Ten season when VJIII and Dumes have experience defending the better perimeter players in the conference. I'm also confident that with more sloppy play, these guys will find themselves on the bench.

I view the first 4 games (including the 2 exhibitions) as a tryout for the varsity team. Based on the small sample, Watford, Elston and Creek have made nice contributions and played within themselves. I am a little disappointed with Rivers so far. The 2 free throws he missed weren't even close. I thought he spent the year off working on his shot? There is a lot to be said about a pass first pg, but 5 assists to 4 turnovers and 30 minutes without hitting a shot against a weak opponent is not going to cut it. I would say he was nervous playing in front of his dad, but he wasn't much better offensively against Howard.

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By: Ben_M https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42692 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:02:37 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42692 Dumes needs to get in sink with the rest of the team. It seems to me that he is out there trying to do too much. He needs to settle down and play team ball like the rest of the players. He really is no longer our number one option, but we can still use him with our unselfish play if he chooses to play that way.

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By: Alex https://www.insidethehall.com/2009/11/17/the-morning-after-hey-thats-doc-rivers/comment-page-1/#comment-42691 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:37:04 +0000 https://www.insidethehall.com/?p=4250#comment-42691 Smitty,

I can understand your point to an extent, but what E does with TMA is give his opinion and commentary. I don't think there's any hidden meaning or anything wrong with what he wrote. Just my thoughts.

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